I was flying around Wintergrasp last night, farming a few eternals and trying half heartedly to get into a 25 man VoA group. Every now and then I'd remind those in /1 that I was a healer, lfg. There was a Death Knight following the same strategy, and I noted that both of us were in the LFG channel as well. This carried on for nearly an hour, as it appeared that no one wanted to make the effort to actually assemble the 25 man group, although there were plenty of people who wanted to run it.
Finally, I suppose the DK decided he would step forth, and he invited me to a group. Within 5 minutes he had a full 25 people heading into VoA. As we were clearing trash, we were having a conversation about dual boxing, and one of the other priests mentioned that it wasn't that hard to do: after all,
Holy Priests only needed to use 2 spells to heal anyway.Now, I'm not trying to be one of those people with nose in the air, claiming that MY class is extraordinairly difficult to play (I have a much more difficult time on my Pally, despite silly claims that Pallies are two-heal spammers), and if you find it so simple, you're obviously just doing it wrong.
But... really? You feel Holy Priests ought to only use two spells?
"Wow. That's amazing.
When I'm running holy, I'm using about 7 or 8 different spells," I comment. Another healer in the group seems to feel similarly, and mentions specific spells to figure out if this
Obviously Superior Because I Only Need Two Spells To Heal Priest uses them.
Renew? "Utterly useless, by the time it finishes healing the target, someone else has already healed them up." And so forth. This is the sort of thing I call Missing The Point. Miss Priesty Pants
does not seem to understand the purpose of a HoT, I suppose. All you healing Druids, haven't you heard? You're utterly useless!
That's why no one wants a Druid in their raid, after all, right?I decided to just let it go. If she finds herself to be performing just fine with only two heals, well... more power to her. I don't really care how you heal, as long as you get your job done - and you don't give others crap for how they choose to get the very same job done. So go ahead and
Flash Heal +
Circle of Healing away. In a pugged VoA run it really doesn't matter much anyway.
But she really started to annoy me later.
After we finished off Koralon and began to make our way to Emalon, the same Priest made a comment in party chat (group 5, all healers!) along the lines of "Ugh, how pathetic.
Our raid leader's dps is only 1500 lol". So I returned with "Well,
this isn't exactly ToGC25." "Yeah but I mean, cmon. 1500? Really? The
raid leader?" This is, of course, coming from the very same priest who insisted that her class only needs to use 2 spells to heal in a raid.
You ever have those moments when you wish that you'd been a bit ballisier, and said what you really want to say? Like...
"Well then you should kick him out. Oh wait. You can't. Because you weren't the one who took the time and made the effort to put together this run - he did.
He sat around for an hour waiting for someone to do it, no one did it, so because he wanted to do VoA badly enough, most likely in order to improve his gear, experience, and therefore DPS, HE was the one who assembled the raid. He hasn't been bossing anyone around, or insulting anyone, or kicking anyone. All he's done is assembled enough people and taken on the PitA task of distributing the loot properly and fairly. In case you hadn't noticed, his weak DPS does not seem to have caused any problems for us. So, if you feel that any pugged raid assembled by someone with obviously inferior damage output is unworthy of your presence, don't let the door kick you on the way out."
But, I'm somewhat ashamed to say, I did not come forth and defend the DK raid leader. I went with the
philosophy that arguing 7x4 is 28 against someone who insists it's 27 would instead make
me the idiot.
Instead I did the following things:- Laughed rudely when afore mentioned priest spent most of the Emalon fight struggling to stay alive (I guess Binding Heal is not one of those 2 spells a Holy Priest needs?)
- Sent a tell to the DK after we finished the raid, thanking him for organizing the group for the rest of us lazy bums, and to feel free to send me a tell if he ever needs a healer for something
- Wrote up a post on my blog in pure passive-aggressive fashion.
And here is the moral of this story. There are certain instances that people PuG because they are easy and quick and they just want to do it for badges and a small chance at some good gear. It's an easy raid lockout to clear every week, and the assumption is that everyone knows the fights. You usually
don't need a raid leader for these fights - you just need
someone to organize it. The person who is leading it does not need to be the best player in the raid - he or she is just the one who was willing to make the effort to put it together.
So be thankful someone was less lazy than yourself and willing to do it - and don't expect them to be the meter-topper. This is one of the many reasons why so many people don't like to throw together a quickie pugged raid.
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I think you made the right choice... At least, you made the choice which is more entertaining for us!
And gosh yes, I'm hugely grateful to anyone who is willing to go through the time, effort and potential unpleasantness of putting together a PUG raid - even if they're not the best players (or leaders) in the world.
Heh, only today I was healing an Ony10 pug on my druid and when I looked at the metres afterwards, the raid leading holy pally had only done a piddly amount of healing. For a moment I thought about commenting on it, but then I thought, "Hey, he was the one who put this run together and without him I wouldn't even have come here." People don't give enough credit to raid-related tasks that aren't measured by metres sometimes.
Ok 1500 is really low, but my dps usually is lowered a lot when I am raid leading, because I like to keep an eye on things and call out brez, or hero, or wipe if needed. He could have been someone who usually pulls around 2k-3k, but was trying to make sure the raid was going smoothly, don't ever expect a RL to be on top, if they are they aren't doing their job.
This is a very good post. I was incredibly amused. Don't worry though, that priest won't be getting past VoA25 with two healing spells.
It always surprises me when people know so little about their class. Surprises and then disgusts me.
I cannot imagine healing with just 2 spells on any class...well maybe when I'm throwing emergency heals as elemental O_O.
One thing I've always lamented, when healing on my priest is that I have more useful spells then I have mouse button combinations for my clique setup. it is the only healing class that I have this issue on too. so how in a world can someone successfully heal with only 2 spells as a priest? I don't get :/
I hate people like that priest you mentioned. HATE.
But, the right decision is not to argue, there is no win for you and it's easy for people to act big behind a keyboard. The amount of crap I see in various pugs and trade chat makes me want to weep for humanity, but I don't bother arguing with them.
Unless they're using Gearscore. THEN I'll pick a fight!
I hear the same thing on my Druid - How we only use Rejuv and Wild Growth to heal raids. It's pretty annoying.
Granted they're my top 2 heals, I always keep Regrowth up on all tanks spot heal with Nourish. It's not as many as a Holy or Disc Priest, but it's definitely a bit more work than Rejuv/WG. If that were the case I could heal with my face.
Lol, I bet that priest could have solo-haeled it, and lead the raid, it sounds like he knew his class really well. You should have listened to him, I bet you would have learned something. Maybe you should have told him you were a girl irl, then he would have understood
Also if I am ever in a group with someone who only does 1500 dps I kick them, or tell the leader to kick them because they don't deserve my heals. Obviously I am a girl irl so I cannot do DPS *shy smile* but if I did I bet I'd do more than 1500.
Apologies for the multiple postings/deletions - I have too many comedy blogging identities, clearly. Your Pretentious Priest reminded me too much of Snottydin, so I had to.
Putting together and leading pug raids, aka cat herding, has been one of the most fun and challenging things I've done in WOW.
If you haven't tried it already, i'd suggest grabbing the addon "rateraid". You can quietly keep track of who's good and who's a derp for future references.